Tuesday, January 16, 2007

Ashley: A Moral Conundrum

This is not an insurance issue, but we have talked before about ethics. Recently, there have been news stories about a severely disabled girl whose parents decided on a radical treatment: through the use of surgery and chemicals, they have arrested her physical growth at about age nine.
As the parent of two healthy, active (sometime too active) daughters, I am at a loss as to how to view this: on the one hand, they are her parents, who have chosen a course of treatment for their handicapped daughter. On the other, this seems to be such a draconian regimen that I am finding it difficult not to be appalled.
Some time ago, I discovered a blog called Dream Mom, written by the mother of a similarly handicapped child (although her son is now a teenager). She has written a series of profound and insightful posts, and was recently interviewed by CNN.
Hers (and her son's) is not a pretty story, but it is moving and hopeful. I highly recommend reading her work. To get you started, here are a few posts which address this particular issue:
One
Two
Three
That last one is long (it clocks in at almost 5,000 words). Trust me, it's worth it.

For the Children...

Recently, both Bob and Mike have blogged on states' efforts to get more children insured. Both pointed out that, ultimately, this really means you and I will pay for that coverage (we can argue as to its cost effectiveness another time). Sometimes, though, the private sector gives the gummint an even bigger kick in the pants:
WellPoint (aka Blue Cross) has decided that even more government money needs to be spent on insuring children (and, to a lesser extent, adults). It's pretty easy for a big insurance company to endorse such a plan: you and I will pay for it, and they'll run it (and, presumably, make a buck or three in the process). Their brave new plan calls for increased spending by the states, expanding access to health coverage for children by subsidizing coverage for families that earn up to 3 times the federal level, or about $60,000 a year for a family of 4. How generous.
But that's not all:
■ The WP plan would offer access to a subsidized state health care program for parents who earn up to 200% of the federal poverty level, and
■ Cover all childless adults (those that apparently have no say in foreign policy, anyway) who may earn as much as the federal poverty level (about $10k for a single adult), and
■Help with premiums for families that have trouble paying for their their private insurance (hey, at least they're insured), and
■ TaDa! Set up (and/or expand) state “high-risk pools;” insurance programs for individuals who have trouble buying conventional coverage because they suffer from health problems (e.g. insulin dependent diabetics, folks with MS, etc)
[ed: Actually, I'm pretty much okay with that last...there needs to be a mechanism for folks who want insurance coverage, and are willing to pay for it, but not go broke in the process. But I believe that this is a separate issue]
How much will this wonderful plan cost?
Ask Senator Berglin.

Monday, January 15, 2007

Carnival Monday!

Young & Broke (what a GREAT name for a blog!) hosts this week's Carnival of Personal Finance. I like how each post has enough contect to be useful, but not overwhelming. The categories are helpful, too, which is a very good thing: there are almost 70 posts!
I was going to put off doing this, but I thought better of it: be sure to check out Roth & Co 's tips on tax strategies for this year. And while you're there, be sure to read his take on the AMT (Alternative Minimum Tax). Who know tax blogs could be so edgy?
And the Carnival of the Capitalists is now up, hosted at Endless Gibberish. This 19 year old entrepreneur has 3 dozen entries, each with a quick recap.

MedBlog Award Voting


If you haven't already, please consider voting for InsureBlog in this year's Medical Blog Awards (just click here and select InsureBlog). Thank you!
UPDATE: Voting's over...results on the 19th.

Sunday, January 14, 2007

Insurance Dispatch...

In this week's column, we learn that Medical Identity Theft is on the rise. What is it, and why should you care?

Check it out at Trusted.MD (formerly The Medical Blog Network).

Saturday, January 13, 2007

Going, Going, Gone...

There's a classic story of a man who bought, and subsequently insured, a box of expensive cigars. After smoking them, he filed a claim, asserting that they had been destroyed "in a series of small fires." The company denied the claim, of course, and the man sued. He won, and the insurer was obligated to pay him $15,000 for his "loss."

The insurance company had the last laugh though: after the man cashed the check, he was arrested on 24 counts of arson! With his own insurance claim and testimony from the previous case being used against him, the man was convicted of intentionally burning his insured property and sentenced to 24 months in jail and a $24,000.00 fine.

That story is no doubt apocryphal (literally, full of a pox), but sometimes life imitates art:

"The casino magnate who accidentally poked a hole in a Picasso painting said insurer Lloyd's of London has offered to settle his $54 million claim of lost value, but the talks aren't going the way he'd like."

Turns out that erstwhile tycoon Steve Wynn, who purchased the painting in 2001, was in the process of selling it when he accidentally poked his own elbow through it, tearing a thumb-sized hole in it. He's made no bones about the fact that it was his own clumsiness which led to the damage, which has since been repaired (but which has also diminished the painting's value).

Apparently, the Lloyd's syndicate which underwrote the policy has a difference of opinion about the value of the claim, and so Mr Wynn is suing them in an effort to "expedite" the claim (i.e. cough up more moola).

I wonder how much coverage I should get for all the mini Picasso's adorning our fridge?

Some futures aren’t much fun to contemplate

Reuters recently reported an interesting dust-up taking place in the U.K.

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/550297?src=mp
(free registration required)

“The National Health Service in England faces a shortage of nurses and family doctors over the next four years, according to a leaked government planning document seen by the Health Service Journal” and NHS “also predicts an oversupply of 3,200 hospital consultants [i.e., specialists], the medical weekly reported on Thursday.”

In response the Director of The Royal College of Nursing said "Just a few weeks ago, the secretary of state for health told MPs that the NHS had employed too many nurses but now her department has evidence predicting a shortage of 14,000 nurses within the next four years."

Meanwhile, the British Medical Association said it was "absurd" to suggest the NHS needed fewer hospital consultants.


Sounds like an ugly fight over money and control – and central planning of health care. The Reuters article is interesting because American media tend not to report much about other nations’ actual experience with their universal health care plans. That's a shame because it's so relevant to the public debate that this country is trying to have.

It’s wrong to argue that there is nothing good in universal, government-controlled systems. At the same time it’s also wrong to pretend that such systems have no serious problems.

This little glimpse inside the British National Health Service is telling us something about a possible future for America. Some futures aren’t much fun to contemplate.

Friday, January 12, 2007

CDHP Update

We've talked about some of the new, positive changes in store for HSA enrollees. And it's true that Consumer Driven Plans (CDHP) continue to grow in popularity (albeit not as quickly as some might have hoped). Still, the numbers could be better:
Segal-Sibson, an independent HR consulting firm, recently surveyed some 1200 employers, of which about 120 responded. On the one hand, such a statistically insignificant sample renders the numbers pretty meaningless. On the other, it's interesting to see even a small, unrepresentative slice of what's going on with CDH. One might presume that the folks who did respond had pretty strong feelings about the subject, which may be why they bothered to respond at all.
One interesting trend jumped out at me: of the employers which offered some form of CDHP at all, more went the HSA (Health Savings Account) route than the HRA (Health Reimbursement Arrangement) path. This seems to me to be just right: after all, the HSA emphasizes more personal responsibility and thoughtful health care consumption, while the HRA rewards those who spend more. Thus, if one of the stated goals is to rein in costs (both for health care and for health insurance), then the former method is desireable.
Tellingly, few of the respondents even knew whether or not their employees made use of their accounts, or the various health imporovement programs that were made available. Thus, they had no clue as to whether or not such plans were of benefit. In other words, they really had no idea what their true cost savings were, nor whether or not their employees benefitted from their HSA's. Since health insurance premiums supposedly represent such a tremendous portion of a company's expenses, one would think that there would be some interest in ascertaining whether or not there was, indeed, a real value.
What was it Bob said a while back?

Cavalcade # 17: Submissions Due

Submissions for next week's CoR, hosted by David Williams at Health Business Blog, are due this coming Monday (the 15th).

You can submit your (or someone else's!) risk-related post via:

Blog Carnival

or

Email

Please include:

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PS We're scheduling hosts for early Spring '07, so don't wait too long to sign up!

Thursday, January 11, 2007

First Health Wonk Review of '07

Roy Poses, one of the voices at Health Care Renewal, hosts an outstanding edition of Health Wonk Review. With 22 high quality entries, it may be the biggest HWR yet - it's certainly one of the most interesting and well laid out.
I was particularly intrigued by a post at Medical Progress Today, where Jurgen Reinhoudt argues against letting the Fed's negotiate on drug prices. Wow.
Our newest team member, Mike Feehan, makes his HWR debut this week.

Wednesday, January 10, 2007

Tech Alert (Comments)

UPDATE: Okay, comments seem to be working again.

I still hate tech.

An Unlikely View of Transparency...

Transparency in health care is a favorite topic here at IB. Recently, I came across this (perhaps over the top) example on the web:
What Doctor's Say And What They Are Thinking
"Welllllll, what have we here...?" (He has no idea and is hoping you’ll give him a clue.)
"Let me check your medical history." (I want to see if you’ve paid your last bill before spending any more time with you.)
"Why don’t we make another appointment later in the week." (I’m playing golf this afternoon, and this a waste of time or I need the bucks, so I’m charging you for another office visit.)
"We have some good news and some bad news." (The good news is, I’m going to buy that new BMW. The bad news is, you’re going to pay for it.)
"Let’s see how it develops." (Maybe in a few days it will grow into something that can be cured.)
"Let me schedule you for some tests." (I have a forty-percent interest in the lab.)
"I’d like to have my associate look at you." (He’s going through a messy divorce and owes me a bundle.)
"I’d like to prescribe a new drug." (I’m writing a paper and would like to use you for a guinea pig.)
"If it doesn’t clear up in a week, give me a call." (I don’t know what it is. Maybe it will go away by itself.)
"That’s quite a nasty looking wound." (I think I’m going to throw up.)
"This may smart a little." (Last week two patients bit off their tongues.)
"Well, we’re not feeling so well today, are we?" (I’m stalling for time. Who are you and why are you here?)
"This should fix you up." (The drug company slipped me some big bucks to prescribe this stuff.)
"Everything seems to be normal." (Rats! I guess I can’t buy that new beach condo after all.)
"I’d like to run some more tests." (I can’t figure out what’s wrong. Maybe the kid in the lab can solve this one.)
"Do you suppose all this stress could be affecting your nerves?" (You’re crazier’n an outhouse rat. Now, if I can only find a shrink who’ll split fees with me.)
"There is a lot of that going around." (My God, that’s the third one this week. I’d better learn something about this.)
"If those symptoms persist, call for an appointment." (I’ve never heard of anything so disgusting. Thank God I’m off next week.)

Tuesday, January 09, 2007

Rate Reviews…

[This post is a joint effort of Bob Vineyard, CLU & Henry Stern, LUTCF]
As mentioned a few weeks ago, one of the key elements of Senator Wyden’s Healthy Americans Act is the implementation of community rating (CR) on a national basis.
There has been a lot of buzz in the medblogosphere about our, shall we say, less than enthusiastic support for this idea. A lot of folks whom we respect and admire have had favorable things to say about CR, but it’s clear that even the brightest among us don’t completely understand the dynamics of health insurance, and especially community rating (CR). Several debates, including some on this site, have focused on the merits of CR, which just goes to show how critical it is to the success (or lack of such) of the HAA.
Proponents of CR claim that it is a way to make health insurance affordable. To an extent this is true, but for whom is it more affordable? A true community-rated product is delivered without regard to the individual’s sex, age or health (or behaviors, for that matter). This means quite simply that everyone in the pool is charged the same rate.
Such an approach is favorable towards those who are older than the average age of the pool, or less healthy. Keep in mind that CR (as it exists now) does not mean that EVERYONE is offered a policy and admitted to the pool. Some with severe pre-ex conditions can still be excluded from coverage, which allows for some selection by the carrier to exist.
So even with community rating, some are able to obtain insurance, others are not. It’s one of the pieces of HAA which is most puzzling: if there is to be true community-based rating, and the coverage is to be mandatory and universal, then how could there be any kind of limitation on coverage, or exclusion of conditions? And if there are no such controls, why would its proponents believe that it will lead to lower costs?
As with almost anything having to do with health care and health insurance, there are exceptions (which often prove the rule). In this case, it’s that CR sometimes works in the small group market. It’s really not hard to see why: it’s the middle ground between the individual and the large group (generally self-insured) markets.
Let’s look at how well CR works in our current system. Currently, 4 states (NY, NH, VT and ME) mandate community rating; in those states, a carrier is prohibited from offering a policy based on age or health condition. If one looks at the insurance market in those states, one finds something else they have in common: few companies (less market choice) and higher than average rates.
There’s a very sound reason for this:
Community rated insurance premiums makes as much sense as community rated loans. That is, in a world of community rated lenders, everyone would pay the same rate when borrowing money. Those who are most credit worthy are lumped in with deadbeats who never pay their bills, and everyone is charged the same interest rate for the same kind of loan. One can easily imagine what those interest rates would be. Why anyone would envision this as fair is beyond our ken, but for some odd reason some believe charging everyone the same rate for health insurance, regardless of health or age, is a more equitable system than the one used in the other 46 states.
As we’ve discussed here at IB many times, risk (it’s assessment and management) is the underlying principle, the raison d’etre (literally: Deter’s raisin) of insurance. Take away that key component, and what we’re talking about is no longer insurance, but a shuffling of dollars from here to there and back again. We won’t argue the merits of such a scheme, but will argue that it is most emphatically not insurance, but rather (and at the risk of invoking Godwin’s Law) simply socialism.
(Pause for raspberries)
Okay, now that everyone’s thrown up their hands in disgust and/or pity, let’s examine why this is not merely name-calling, but sound economic and political reasoning:
Community rating is a method for pricing insurance. It simply says that everyone in a specific demographic cohort (i.e. geographic area, socio-economic class, race or sex) must be charged the same rate for insurance, regardless of health, habits or age. The term “community” simply acknowledges the commonality of that cohort. In the case of the HAA, that “community” becomes the population of the United States (or subsets of it). Fair enough; if that’s what the people really want, then that’s fine. But by prohibiting insurers from taking into account the fact that different people have different physical characteristics, health histories, and behaviors, the plan drastically devalues the element of risk. It is simply transferring money around, which is not insurance. By definition, socialism (whether as an economic or political system) is the forced redistribution of resources (in this case, money) without regard to merit.
In short, community rating encourages adverse selection more than the current system. The result is, the carrier gets more of the unhealthy risks and fewer of the healthy risks. (For a more detailed explication, see here and here)
Why does this matter?
Quite simply, because everywhere CR has been implemented, it has led almost immediately to increased insurance rates and decreased insurance availability. Why would this result not obtain if it is implemented on a (far) larger scale? The principle and the goal is the same, regardless of whether we’re talking one state or 50. It’s fashionable to discuss health insurance in terms of “fairness,” but it is silly to do so. A prevalent (though erroneous) school of thought conflates health insurance with health care; such folks have decided that it makes sense to look at health insurance not as a risk management vehicle, but some fundamental right, akin to voting and peaceful assembly.
It is not.
It is a mechanism for spreading risk. But if we remove (or substantially decrease) the risk, then it’s no longer insurance. Fine, let’s recast the debate, but let's at least be intellectually honest about it: it’s a national health plan, coupled with a nationalized health care system (can’t have one without the other). How about an honest discussion about that?

Got Milk?

Are you sure you want it? Well, maybe you do:

According to researchers at Stockholm's Karolinska Institute, "(f)ull fat dairy products are more likely to keep you slim than comparable low fat foods." That's because, well, apparently no one really knows why.

On the other hand, maybe you don't want that cool, refreshing glass after all:

According to German researchers, "the relaxing effect of a few cups of ordinary black tea on the arteries is completely wiped out by milk." At least they have (or think they have) a handle on why: apparently, "casein proteins from milk blocked the effect of tea all by themselves."


Now go wipe off that mustache.

Monday, January 08, 2007

Carnival Monday!

Up, up and away! It's the latest edition of the Carnival of Personal Finance, on newstands now (okay, not really: it's at Get Rich Slowly). Host J.D. has chosen a heroic theme, and presents a stunning 78 posts, all with interesting and helpful commentary.
The Carnival of the Capitalists is also up, courtesy of Andrew at Diary of a Startup. With 3 dozen entries, all with useful context, it's a great resource. as well.

Sunday, January 07, 2007

Insurance Dispatch...

This week, we look at a recent Kaiser Foundation study which shows that the share of GDP going to health care has been growing faster in many European and Asian countries than it has here.

Available now at The Medical Blog Network.

Saturday, January 06, 2007

Governator seeks insurance for all Cal children

From the L.A. Times today, 4 January 2007:

“SACRAMENTO — Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger will propose that all Californian children, including those in the state illegally, be guaranteed medical insurance as part of the health-care overhaul he intends to unveil next week”

The pro and con for including children of illegal aliens seems to sort out as follows:

Pro - From a public health standpoint, it's smarter to cover all children regardless of immigration. You just don't want unimmunized kids surfing around in the population.

Con - Californians do not want to reward illegal behavior

I lean toward the public health view because I think the additional cost of covering children of illegal aliens will be a relatively small part of the overall package – a likely public health bargain. Besides, I think it would be an error to hold children responsible for the illegal behavior of their parents, certainly insofar as entitlement to a public health care program that affects mainly the poor. Finally I think the possibility that this thing will actually be enacted and presented to the Governator for signature are less than 50%.

The governor vetoed a similar plan in 2005 citing lack of a plan to pay for it. It's not clear why the financing might be different now and in fact the article reports that “the administration has not revealed details of how it would pay for such a program”. The article also states that “Sixty-nine percent of Californian children without health insurance in 2005 were eligible for existing programs but were not enrolled, according to the UCLA Center for Health Policy Research...That was due to a variety of factors, including inadequate funds in some county programs to cover all those who qualified”. One must wonder about the logic of pushing a new program when the state cannot pay for the program it has already.

Thursday, January 04, 2007

'07 HSA Changes: A Recap

As we reported last month, a number of (mostly positive) changes are on tap for Health Savings Accounts (HSA’s). Here’s a brief summary:
· Folks can make a one time transfer from their IRA to their HSA.
· They can also make a one time rollover from their FSA and/or HRA.
· In general, the FSA grace period no longer impacts HSA eligibility.
· Maximum annual contribution limitations are more generous, and aren’t based on HDHP (High Deductible Health Plan) deductibles or IRS limits.
· Perhaps the most significant change is that, in most cases, contributions don’t have to be pro-rated when you start an HDHP mid year. This is really helpful for folks who want to make the switch in, say, September, but are intimidated at the major deductible (and paltry HSA contributions allowance) facing them so late in the year.
· Employers can contribute to more to non-highly compensated employees without running afoul of HSA comparability rules.
There are one or two other changes, as well.
On the downside, Vimo (a comparison-shopping portal for healthcare products and services) reports a significant gap between the number of people enrolled in HDHP’s and those who’ve set up Health Savings Accounts. They’re also concerned that the amount of money actually on deposit in these accounts represent half of the potential out-of-pocket exposure. For some reason, Vimo is concerned that these “findings hint at disturbing trends that may jeopardize the Consumer-Driven Health movement."
Me, I don’t see it. First, just because the money isn’t in the HSA doesn’t mean it’s not available. And a lot of folks also use their accounts on a fairly fluid basis, moving funds in and out as claims occur. Finally, it ignores the fact that there were significant limits on the amount of money that could be put into those accounts, which limits are now greatly reduced.
Looks like clear skies to me.

MedBlog Awards


This year's Medical Blogs Award is now open for voting, and we've been nominated in the "Best Health Policies/Ethics Weblog 2006" category. Folks can vote once (per category), and we have some mighty stiff (and deserving) competition.
Please consider voting for IB, and ask your friends, relatives, business acquaintences and the fine folks at the Nigerian Ministry of Finance to vote for us, as well.
Just click here and then on InsureBlog.

I Spine

A while back, Bob blogged on the phenomenon of physicians "expanding" their practices with non-traditional "extras" in an effort to bolster revenue. For example, one physician added botox injections and hair removal to the list of services she offers, which apparently help to offset decreases in other areas of her practice.
According to the NYT's Reed Abelson, this idea is catching on in other medical specialties, as well:
And that's not all; apparently, these same surgeons invest in the companies which make the "hardware" (screws and plates, for example) which are used in the surgery.
I'm not sure I have a real problem with the latter: is it unethical for me to invest in insurance companies? Or my mechanic to buy some shares in Pennzoil? I didn't think so.
But the "non-story" has legs: "Federal regulators have voiced concerns about the growing popularity of the investment arrangements, which would potentially violate antikickback laws if doctors receive stock or are otherwise compensated to use or recommend certain devices."
This sounds to me a bit more damaging than simply buying stock in a company with which one does business. I suppose it would be akin to me only selling policies from companies whose stock I own, or that mechanic only using Pennzoil when servicing my car. I just don't believe that any one carrier (and/or its products) is always right for every client. In the same way, it's difficult for me to believe that XYZ Corporation's spinal products are always the best choice for every patient.
According to Ms Abelson, many of the almost 100 companies in the spinal devices field are owned (to some degree) by physicians. On the one hand, I'm still not convinced that this is as a priori conflict of interest. On the other hand, though, it does look like there may be a problem.
So what does this have to do with insurance? Well, it seems to me that if this is increasing the cost of health care, then it is increasing the cost of insurance, as well. After all, at least some of the funds being so directed come from insurance (and/or Medicare) reimbursements. If the prices are inflated, or if there's no effort made to hold down costs, then this doesn't bode well.

Wednesday, January 03, 2007

Cavalcade of Risk #16 is up!

Jason Shafrin hosts this edition, available now at the Healthcare Economist. With 15 well-explained entries, in three categories, it's a great New Year for the CoR.
And if you'd like to host an upcoming edition, just drop us a line.

Tuesday, January 02, 2007

Money Monday (on Tuesday!)

Free Money Finance rings in the New Year with 2007's first Carnival of the Capitalists. There are over 30 entries, each with excellent context and commentary.
Joe Kristan, of Roth & Co, has his 2006 Taxpayer of the Year Award nominees. Not to be missed.
John at Mighty Bargain Hunter hosts the year's first Carnival of Personal Finance. He's compiled a list of over 40 entries, and includes context for each.
Ever wondered why gas pumps have that third decimal? Me either, but Money, Matter and More Musings explains why you should.
UPDATE: An explosive edition of Grand Rounds, 2007's first, is up at Distractible Mind. Fellow Medical Blog Network columnist Dr Rob Lamberts hosts, with some 30 entries, all with helpful commentary and categorized. Hint: be prepared for a booming good time.
There were quite a few interesting posts, but my favorite is Dr Charles' entry on (of all things) John Bolton's mustache.

Monday, January 01, 2007

The uninsured as Medicaid failure

In October 2006, the Kaiser Family Foundation Commission on Medicaid and the Uninsured released this Issue Paper:

http://www.kff.org/uninsured/upload/7571.pdf

The Issue Paper cites Federal Census data reporting that the estimated number of uninsured grew by 1.3 million people between 2004 and 2005, and now stands at 46.2 million, or about 17.9% of the under-65 population. This Paper thus provides additional support for the expressions of concern that “one out of every 6 Americans is uninsured”.

But wait a minute. Statements like that only reflect the average. Even an accurate average says nothing about the distribution of the population. It is accurate to say that "one out of 5" persons on the face of the earth is Chinese but that does not tell you how many Chinese live on your block. Fact is, the overwhelming majority of Chinese live in China. Similarly the uninsured don't simply comprise "one out of every 6 Americans". Fact is, the odds of being uninsured are hugely driven by poverty.

The Issue Paper confirms this fact, which prior surveys have also consistently found. And it stands to reason - - the very poor tend not to have regular, full-time jobs that offer employer-based group insurance; they often don't sign up for employer-based insurance even if eligible, because of the cost; and they can't afford to purchase individual insurance.

Table 1 in the Issue Paper shows that people below 2X's the federal poverty level comprised about 65% of all uninsured, non-elderly Americans in both 2004 and 2005. For people below 2X’s the FPL, the rate of uninsurance was 32.3% in 2004 and 33.3% in 2005. This raises some questions for Medicaid. Why is Medicaid failing to meet the needs of so many of our most impoverished citizens??? Aren't these exactly the people that Medicaid was created to serve?? How can Medicaid be falling so far short of meeting the goals for which it was established??? The KFF Commission on Medicaid and the Uninsured does not comment on these questions in the Issue Paper.

If all the nonelderly below 2X’s the federal poverty level could be enrolled in Medicaid, the proportion of uninsured Americans would fall from 17.9% to about 6% of the total population under age 65. (Enrolling everyone below 4X’s the federal poverty level into Medicaid would reduce the uninsured all the way down to 2%).

Seems to me that Medicaid is failing in its purpose as a governmental safety net for the poor, and that public pressure must be brought to bear on the new Congress to fx it within e.g. 100 days of their taking office in January.

OT Bleg: We're in the running for a MedBlog Award, and would appreciate your vote (just click here, select "InsureBlog" and press "Vote"). Thank you!

Sunday, December 31, 2006

Insurance Dispatch

In this week's column, we discuss wellness programs, which just got a nice boost from the Fed’s.

Available now at The Medical Blog Network.

Friday, December 29, 2006

Submissions Due...

For next week's CoR (#16!), hosted by Jason Shafrin, the Health Care Economist.

Please submit your entries (or one you like from someone else's blog) by Monday (the 1st):

■ via email

or

■ at Blog Carnival

PLEASE include:

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NB: We're still looking for hosts. If you'd like to host a future edition, just drop us an email.

Introducing Mr Mike...

Mike Feehan, that is, the newest member of Team IB. A graduate of Washington University in St Louis (both Bachelors and Masters), Mike’s worked for 3 major insurance carriers, from entry-level to Senior VP. He’s also been a benefits consultant, and manager of benefits for a plan that included some 30,000 employees, over half of whom are outside the US.
Most importantly, however, he is a lifelong Cardinals' fan, and sold beer at Busch Stadium for several years.
Mike’s resume includes stints as an Aetna VP, as Chief Underwriter for Empire Blue Cross, and as a benefits consultant for Willis of New York. It’s really too bad that he can’t seem to hold down a job.
He currently works for a prominent international organization, which must remain nameless (you read about it every day and wouldn't have any trouble guessing its identity). One thing we can tell you, though, is that Mike brings a wealth of information and insight to our blog, as well as a new perspective: Bob, Bill and I are all agents; it’ll be nice to have a knowledgeable and experienced viewpoint from someone who’s got a different outlook. And being in the Northeast, Mike helps us round out our geographic diversity, as well.
We’re looking forward to working with Mike, and wish all our readers a Happy, Healthy and Prosperous New Year!

Thursday, December 28, 2006

UHC Takes a Hit...

Our friend Joe Paduda is no fan of UHC’s executive stock plans, and since he’s on vacation this week, we’ll take up the slack. The Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) has now launched an official investigation into UHC’s stock option plans. The company says that it’s cooperating with the Fed’s, which should set everyone’s mind at ease.
You may recall that, a few months ago, United’s Dr. William McGuire resigned as Chairman of the Board following a review of his stock options. The company itself also took some financial hits as a result.
Greed, of course, is not the exclusive province of insurers, but this time of year, with so many employers facing double-digit renewals, it sure looks bad when the carrier exec’s get caught with their hands in the cookie jar.

Tuesday, December 26, 2006

Does She or Doesn’t She…

Well, I don’t know about her hair, but I can make a pretty good guess about her insurance: nope.
Okay, let’s go back to the beginning, and work our way forward.
I occasionally receive calls from distraught folks who are unhappy with their insurance coverage (generally, it’s because they think it’s too expensive; sometimes it’s because they got bad service). Such was the case today, when Melody called with a problem: she’s had an HSA for several years now (well, it started life as an MSA, but evolved along the way). Her agent has left the business (a not unusual occurrence), and the carrier’s home office staff has been, according to Melody, less than helpful. In the meantime, her premiums have increased to unacceptable levels, and she’d like to switch.
Hey, we’re here to help.
So I ask the normal questions (height and weight, tobacco use, some health questions). She seems fine, if a bit plump (not that I should talk, of course). Nothing that should cause a problem though, so I start asking her questions about her plan, what she likes and what she doesn’t like about it. I then suggested a certain carrier, and she quickly (and firmly) told me not to bother with them: they declined her several years ago.
Um, I thought you told me that there were no health issues?
There aren’t, Melody reassured me, just a rare genetic blood condition.
Oh, is that all? Golly, that shouldn’t be too much of a problem; after all, your current carrier took you.
You what?
You don’t think they asked if you’d ever been turned down for insurance, and why?
I see. And you didn’t bother to tell them?
Uh hunh.
Well, I happen to represent that carrier as well, and I can assure you that they did, in fact, ask if you’ve been declined. So you submitted a fraudulent application. Well, let’s see if we can get you back on the right side of the track now, with a carrier that knows your complete history. As it is, you don’t really have insurance now, so it seems a shame to pay even more for it.
I beg your pardon? You do have insurance now; if you break your leg the blood part doesn’t matter? Okay, well, it’s really not my job to argue with you, so I’ll check around, see if there’s any carriers that will offer you coverage, and get back with you as soon as possible.
Happy Holidays to you, too, ma’am, and PLEASE stay well.

LinkFest Tuesday

This week's Carnival of the Capitalists is hosted by Elisa Camahort at Worker Bees. She actually posted it a day early, but I missed it (for shame!!). It's a good one, too, with almost 3 dozen posts, each one with helpful context.
Grand Rounds instigator Nicholas Genes presents this week's edition. Over 30 bloggers submitted their favorite posts, and explained what made them so special.
UPDATE: The Carnival of Personal Finance is now up over at My Personal Finance Blog. The host has pulled together more than 60 entries, in a half dozen categories. Nice job!

Sunday, December 24, 2006

Insurance Dispatch

While we're all celebrating the joyous Holiday Season, it's important to remember that not everyone is "naturally" so joyous.

In this week's column, we learn that cough medicine isn’t just for coughs anymore. Are your kids safe?

Available now at The Medical Blog Network.

Thursday, December 21, 2006

Thursday News Briefs…

As we’ve written about more than once, so-called “health discount programs” can create more problems than they solve. And because they are NOT insurance products, the Department of Insurance (well, the Ohio DOI) has been powerless to stop them.
Until now, that is:
Ohio has joined a growing number of states which have empowered Insurance Departments to impose – and enforce – new rules on these plans. The Ohio House has passed, unanimously, their version of Senate Bill 5, which sets requirements for discount medical plans, including minimum marketing standards.
Unfortunately, SB 5 also includes enabling language for so-called “Healthcare Purchasing Alliances,” which have their own problems. We’ll have more on this soon.
While we’re on the subject of “ways to make insurance more expensive:” the Ohio House has also passed a mental health parity bill, which would require insurance companies to cover mental illnesses as they cover physical ones. Another word for this is “premium increasing mandate;” lame duck Governor Taft hasn’t announced yet whether or not he’ll sign it into law.
And finally, as long as we’re here in the Buckeye State (home of Heisman Trophy winner Troy Smith), there’s some interesting life insurance news, as well: Western-Southern Life has introduced an unemployment rider, available on many of its term plans.
The rider, which adds about 3% to the premium, is a waiver of premium benefit which is expected to help those who’ve lost their jobs keep their insurance.

Wednesday, December 20, 2006

Cavalcade of Risk #15...

When we started the CoR a little over 6 months ago, it seemed a calculated risk that we'd last this long. We've got hosts scheduled up through mid-February now (hey, that reminds me, how would you like to host an upcoming edition?), which seems to mean that that risk paid off.

So, take a break from that last minute shopping, sit back, and enjoy the show. And a great big Thank You to everyone who submitted, and a few who didn't (but got included anyway):

■ You’ve heard of soft water, but how about Hard Money? Joshua Dorkin, blogging at Real Estate Investing For Real, explains how some lenders use an imaginative technique to help folks secure loans.

■ Joe Kristan, of Roth & Company, explains some of the “useful changes to the HSA rules." Using them can help reduce your risk of spending too much on health care.

■ The PC-Doctor prescribes a dose of common sense: reusing passwords can be dangerous to your (computer's) health!

■ Think you’re paying too much to insure your car? Chuck Russell has 15 ways to help you lower your car insurance.

■ The folks at VitaBeat warn that young men face a greater risk of high blood pressure than their female counterparts. As a former teen-age boy myself (a LOOONG time ago!), I'm tempted to say "dunh!"

Klik Money reports that something as simple as a health risk assessment can help lower your medical bills. Good advice!

■ The unfortunate plight of CNET editor James Kim has some lessons for the rest of us. Pro Bargain Hunter’s Yan has some helpful tips on preparing for the worst.

■ Think your identity is safe? Do you get credit card offers in the mail? Wenchypoo warns that if the answer to both of those are “yes,” you may have a problem.

■ Last week, she hosted the Health Wonk Review; this week, Rita Schwab has some pointed questions about the redundancy of the current physician credentialing system in the US. Don’t miss the comments.

■ Great news! If visions of (chocolate covered) sugarplums are dancing in your head, Mombian reports that chocolate may reduce the risk of miscarriage.

■ What’s a modern day Jack the Ripper got to do with risk (other than the obvious, if you’re in a certain line of work)? Renthusiast wonders why the ubiquitous London surveillance cameras weren't a show-stopper.

Hedge Funds are mysterious, and potentially risky, vehicles. Find out why Mister Juggles loves ‘em.

■ Since it's such a hot topic these days, here's one more on identity theft. The Identity Theft Fixes blog has a cautionary tale about a simple printing error that could have dire consequences.

■ No need to grab a shovel: Paul’s Tips has some advice about cutting your losses.

■ Jon Coppelman at Workers Comp Insider has a great post on navigating the hazards of the ADA (no, not that ADA!)

■ And finally, Yours Truly responds to a commenter’s puzzlement over the difference between luck and risk.

Our next host will be Jason Shafrin, the Healthcare Economist, on January 3rd. You can find the new Winter Schedule (and any changes) at the Cavalcade homepage.

Monday, December 18, 2006

Carnival Monday!

I'm ambivalent about this week's Carnival of Personal Finance: on the one hand, it's simply a list of posts, with no clue (other than titles) as to content. OTOH, I'm empathetic to the folks at A Penny Saved (after all, this week's Cavalcade of Risk is here at IB); still, I wonder if there isn't some happy compromise available.
In the event, you can't go wrong with Joe Kristan's tax-oriented guide to gift giving.
Happily, Jeff Cornwall has an outstanding, Christmas-themed Carnival of the Capitalists. With over 40 posts, including summaries and some (cute) comments, this makes a great gift.
Happily, Wenchypoo has a thought-provoking article on those ubiquitous year-end bonuses.

Sunday, December 17, 2006

Insurance Dispatch

In this week's column, we examine how to enhance the holiday experience using your Flexible Spending Account.

Available now at The Medical Blog Network.

Friday, December 15, 2006

Happy Chanukah!



May the light of the season illuminate and warm the hearts and homes of all our readers.

UPDATE: And yes, they do taste as good as they look.

Wydening Gyre

In the pre-blog world, Senator Ron Wyden’s health care bill, the Healthy Americans Act, would be just another pie-in-the-sky version of HillaryCare, and would be consigned quickly to oblivion. It is, after all, based on flawed premises and suspect assumptions (which is not to say that it’s entirely without merit; more on that in a bit).
But a funny thing happened on the way to the backbench: Senator Wyden recognized the burgeoning influence of the blogosphere, and its ability to both shape and publicize the debate. As I remarked to the Senator, I have long envied my colleagues in the political blog world for their growing access to key political decision-makers and players.
But hold on a minute, Prof, what do you mean “as I remarked to the Senator?" Since when do members of congress discuss things with you?
Earlier this week, the Senator’s office sent out an email announcing his bold new health care initiative. Among the recipients were both myself and Bob, as well as (one supposes) several thousand of our colleagues. I responded by asking for an interview; turns out, he’d already anticipated such invitations, and had arranged for a conference call with a dozen bloggers from the “health policy wonk” side of the blogosphere. Bob was unavailable for the call, but I was able to participate. Also attending were such medblog luminaries as Joe Paduda, Matthew Holt and Ezra Klein, along with several other interesting bloggers, including econblogger Max Sawicky. Most everyone, myself excluded, were proponents of either single-payor or universal coverage systems, and were quite receptive to the Senator’s plan.
On the face of it, the bill offers a lot of bang for the buck. For one thing, it phases out employer-based health insurance. I’m all for that, with some caveats. For another, it appears to recognize the value of the “private” (i.e. non-government program) insurance channel.
There are, however, two fundamental flaws in the proposal:
First, it relies on a model called “Community Rating.” Basically, CR is the health insurance equivalent of “pay at the pump” auto insurance. It sure sounds nice: everyone pays the same rate, simple to administer, universal coverage (every car needs gas, right?). The problem is that not every car is the same, and not every driver has a flawless record. Same with health insurance: absent underwriting, folks who routinely run (and win) 26 mile marathons would pay the same as obese folks with diabetes. Thus, everyone ends up paying more.
The second problem is that it relies heavily on prevention to hold down rising health care costs. There are, for example, tax incentives for parents to have their kids vaccinated. While prevention issues are, of course, important and helpful, they are not going to significantly hold down the rising cost of health care. As one of our commenters has previously noted, “(I)f health care were not expensive, health insurance would not be expensive. If the cost of health care were not rising the cost of health insurance would not be rising.” There is precious little in this bill that addresses this basic problem.
And there’s this: the bill is touted as having bipartisan support, as well as support from various union leaders and titans (or at least captains) of industry. But, as usual, no one who actually works in the insurance field was involved. Rather like assessing how to get the car running better, but eschewing the advice of the mechanic. That is, we’re the folks who actually see how this stuff works, and doesn’t work, in the real world. We understand that study after study has shown that 85% of insureds are satisfied with their coverage. We also understand that mandatory coverage is no panacea (why don’t auto insurance rates go down every year?). The only insurance industry “representative” involved in putting this plan together was the president of Oregon’s Blue Cross/Blue Shield. Small wonder, that: who else is going to administer the plan (and reap the financial rewards)?
I would urge IB readers to check out the reports of the other attendees; each one of us had, of course, our own agenda and biases, as well as our own conclusions.
My own take is that this bill, while interesting in itself, is unlikely to get much traction. There are just too many problems with it, not the least of which is its unfavorable propensity to look like the Medicare D debacle writ large(r). That is, while it may look good on paper, the reality is that it will lead to a rapid increase in health insurance costs, while doing very little to rein in health care costs.
What did impress me, however, is that Senator Wyden was perceptive enough to understand that, by taking his case to the blogs, he gets a built-in publicity bump, with (mostly) favorable reviews. Thus, his bill will enjoy an immediate advantage over others that come down the pike. And he wasn’t afraid to engage in a bit of friendly debate with yours truly; he asserted that community rating would hold down insurance costs, and opined that cost-shifting from the private sector to the government was a major reason for high health care costs.
I pointed out that he had both of these phenomena bassackwards; that is, community rating increases premiums, and that the gummint’s cost-shifting habits (especially Medicare’s) unnecessarily increase costs. His answer was, unsurprisingly, to try to water down my point by saying that all sectors shift costs, which (for some unknown reason) somehow increases costs to the others. I found his arguments unpersuasive, but appreciated his candor and enthusiasm.
This was a tremendous opportunity, and I thank the Senator for sharing his time and insights with us. Hopefully, other congresscritters will follow suit, and we’ll have more such opportunities. If nothing else, it shows that medblogs are quickly coming into their own.

Thursday, December 14, 2006

Calling all Wonks...

For the Health Wonk Review, available now at the MSSP Nexus blog. Hostess Rita Schwab presents an all-star round-up of over 20 thought-provoking posts.
Marcus Newberry, writing at Fixin' Healthcare, has an interesting piece on risk, and the problem-oriented nature of our health care system.

Tuesday, December 12, 2006

Helpful HSA News...

From the fine folks at Colorado Health Insurance Insider, a helpful compendium of what's (presumably) in store for 2007 and beyond.

And FoIB Joe Kristan, who blogs at Roth & Co, has even more.

Grand Rounds

A very full 'Rounds today, with almost 30 entries, all professionally put together by the folks at TreatmentOnLine. Each post has thoughtful and incisive commentary, as well. Bravo!
FoIB David Williams, proprietor of the Health Business Blog, puts the lie to those who claim that the rich and powerful receive better health care. Thought-provoking piece.

Monday, December 11, 2006

Money Monday!

Kirk Walsh presents an excellent Carnival of Personal Finance. With almost 60 entries, all neatly categorized and most with helpful comments and context, it's a great pre-holiday treat.
Joe Kristan has an interesting post on the AMT (Alternative Minimum Tax) that helps explain that arcane little tax nugget.
This week's Carnival of the Capitalists is also pretty jam-packed, with some 40-plus entries, hosted by Sama Blog. I was a bit disappointed to see that it's basically just a list of posts, with no particular rhyme nor reason.
This one caught my eye, though, because it succinctly and accurately explains how liability insurance works and, more importantly, what it doesn't do. An excellent read from John Bambenek at the Part-Time Pundit.

Sunday, December 10, 2006

Insurance Dispatch

Betting the Pharm...In this week's column, we take a look at a relatively new trend in pharmacy benefit management. PBM's are going transparent, which could mean lower health care and insurance costs.

Check it out at The Medical Blog Network.

Friday, December 08, 2006

Nipping One in the Bud...

There's been a great deal of blog-buzz recently about the new Johns Hopkins study. It purports to show that a sizeable chuck of "uninsureds' earn too much to qualify for public assistance, but nevertheless cannot afford insurance premiums.
Let me state the obvious at the outset: the study itself is fatally flawed, and its presentation so full of holes that I want a Reuben. About the only redeeming feature I could find was that it eschewed the common mistake of conflating health insurance with health care.
Okay, now to brass tacks:
According to the “study,” well over half of those folks who identify themselves as uninsured claim that they make too much money to qualify for the various public assistance programs, but not enough to afford insurance premiums. As my co-blogger, Bob Vineyard, reminded me, this seems to fly directly in the face of many previous such studies, which indicated that about 40% of the uninsured make in excess of $50,000 a year. Granted, this isn’t exactly Bill Gates territory, but it certainly enough to be able to afford some basic, catastrophic coverage.
Second, the type of plans for which these folks are supposedly shopping is never revealed. Are they looking for (expensive) first-dollars type plans, with office co-pays and drug cards? Or are they looking at, for example, high deductible plans which offer an affordable safety net? The study never says (although I’d hazard a guess). The point is, absent some critical illness, most folks will qualify for at least some basic level of coverage.
Third, it’s never made clear (if they bothered to ascertain this at all) how many of these fine folks have cable TV, internet access, or cell phones. It would be nice to know this: assuming that one has a finite income, the choices one makes as to how it’s to be spent is certainly relevant to this discussion. Absent this type of information, the study itself is meaningless.
But Professor, you may object, how can you say this when everyone knows how expensive health insurance is?
The “study” itself gives us the answer: “(W)e do not know what the benefit packages or cost sharing are for the policies for which we have premium data." That is, they have a set of values, and a set of variables, and there is absolutely no effort made to correlate the two. In other words, they just made the whole thing up.
Much ado about nothing, indeed.

Wednesday, December 06, 2006

Insuring the Uninsured...part n+1

Santa Clara County, (California) the valley's largest provider of health care for people without medical insurance, thinks it can get small businesses to do the right thing -- and make the county money in the bargain.

Under the "Three Share Model'' plan, the county would make its health and hospital network -- and its 300 attending physicians -- available to low-wage workers of small businesses that currently do not offer health coverage. Participating employers and employees, in return, would pay monthly premiums....

It remains at the conceptual stage until next spring, when the county will learn if it will be awarded state money, estimated at $10 million to $15 million, to launch the project. SJ Mercury News
To be eligible, a business must have less than 50 employees, 30% of whom earn $30,000 or less per year, and who live and work within Santa Clara County. The current proposal calls for businesses to pay $125 per employee per month and the employee pay $50 per month...nothing has been said about rates for dependent coverage. If the plan gets approved by the state, it is estimated that 5000 to 10,000 people will enroll.

What this will do to the bottom line is unclear. The county provides medical services for these people anyway...with this plan they'll collect $175/month per employee. That's a lot higher than the $0 that's collected today. However, nothing has hit the press about the plan benefits versus what's currently provided. And if the enrollees now think of themselves as having real insurance, utilization may markedly increase.

It will be interesting to see how this plays out.




HSA Discrepancy in the News (finally!)

Regular IB readers may recall our investigative pieces, inspired by Joe Paduda, in which Bob and I described how unsuspecting folks get burned receiving uncovered care from network providers. As far as we know, ours are the only blogs which have extensively covered this potentially catstrophic situation, and we wondered when (if?) it would appear on the radar outside the blogosphere.

Well, wonder no more; Peter Rousmanierre, himself a blogger as well as a regular feature writer, has an article on this growing problem in the November issue of Human Resource Executive magazine. In it, he cites our work as a primary source, and has some additional information, as well.

Click away! (NB: If the link isn't working, here's a pdf of the article)

Cavalcade of Risk (#14!) is up...

The Cato Institute's Michael Cannon hosts a terrific CoR, with a dozen interesting (and often provocative) posts. And he adds not just context, but a unique sense of humor to each entry, making them even more intriguing.
Hats off to Michael!
The next edition is back here at IB. In fact, we're actually scheduling hosts for next February (can you believe it?!), so don't be shy about volunteering.

Tuesday, December 05, 2006

Grand Rounds

Dr Emily DeVoto, hostess of The Antidote, has an outstanding collection of posts from around the medblogosphere. Her 'Rounds includes over 3 dozen entries, categorized and summarized. Nice!
From the Fellow Blogger Makes Good file: Diabetes Mine blogress Amy Tenderich has published a guide for diabetics, aimed at helping them manage their care. Mazel Tov, Amy!

Monday, December 04, 2006

NoKo Insurance (Big Time Fraud?)

Everyone's favorite whacky dictator has a problem (well, several, but this one is relevant to IB): he's strapped for cash, and running out of options (and money). Sure, he could sell weapons to terrorists, or continue to pump out counterfeit US currency.
But that's just small potatoes; the real bucks, as everyone knows, are in the insurance.
No, Kim hasn't (yet) gotten his Life & Health license (so far as we know, anyway); but he has (apparently) set up a pretty interesting reinsurance scheme:
Apparently, he's insuring much of his country's infrastructure, and then submitting major claims against those policies. If true, this is insurance fraud writ large, to the tune of potentially hundreds of millions of dollars.
Why should you care? After all, it's the reinsurers who take the hit, not us, right? Well, no: our own carriers offload much of their risk to these same reinsurers, who will now have to charge more to make up for the NK losses. A double whammy.
Ouch!

Money Monday

Marshall Lebovits hosts a jam-packed edition of Carnival of The Capitalists, available now at Show Me The Money blog. This edition boasts 30 entries, with helpful categories (including Poetry & Humor) and each entry includes a description.
As one opposed to any "minimum wage" laws, I really appreciated Brian Gongol's thoughtful explanation of why they don't really do what they purport to.

Sunday, December 03, 2006

Insurance Dispatch

A new guide to disease prevention that can help employers, and employees, promote good health and save money at the same time. That's the subject of this week's column at The Medical Blog Network.

Read all about it!

Saturday, December 02, 2006

Almost missed this...

David Williams, host of the Health Business Blog, has an insightful post about Walmart's new(ish) $4 rx offerings. He takes on its critics with some powerful, well-reasoned arguments, and offers his thoughts on the positive implications of such programs.

Good weekend reading.

Friday, December 01, 2006

Risk vs Luck

One of our commenters has raised an interesting question: "Isn't risk just a fancier word for bad luck?"
Well, no:
Risk is about "the potential harm that may arise from some present process or from some future event," whereas luck is "an unknown and unpredictable phenomenon." The former has to do with probability, the latter with randomness.
By way of example:
Suppose I bet that you won't make a hole in one, blindfolded, at our local course. My risk is that you may, in fact, ace the hole. But the laws of probability dictate that there is a finite chance of this happening, and I can buy insurance to cover the eventuality. You, on the other hand, must depend on luck that you'll make the shot.
In the same way, health insurers know that there is a chance (a risk) that you will become seriously ill in the next year. But they also know, based on your application and their own statistics, the likelihood of this happening, and can arrive at a price that will cover that risk (premium). You may or may not become ill, but that's your luck, not the carrier's risk (which they've already managed).
Insurance is about spreading the risk; that is, assessing the likelihood that, out of a large group of people, one particular person will have a large claim. So if a person has the bad luck (we'll leave out behavioral choices for this example) to have, say, a heart attack, the company has already planned for that contingency.
Insurance is not about "spreading the luck:" there are other industries for that.

Submissions Due...

For next week's Cavalcade of Risk (#14!), hosted by Mike Cannon of the Cato Institute. Please submit your entries (or one you like from someone else's blog) by Monday (the 4th):

■ via email
or
■ at Blog Carnival

PLEASE include:

► Your blog's url

► Your post's url

► The trackback url (if applicable)

► A (brief) summary

PS: We're still looking for hosts. If you'd like to host a future edition, just drop us an email.

In Which I'm the Interviewee (again)

Dr Alex Kavokin, host of the most recent Cavalcade of Risk, is well-known in the medblogosphere for his interesting and informative interviews (Nursing Professor Kim McAllister, for example). Recently, he asked me to participate, and I agreed.

I was impressed (and a bit surprised) by the number and scope of his questions; they really made me stop and think.

In the event, here ya go.